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dunhill wrote:I'm listening to Barry McGuire's This Precious Time which got me to thinking. If Barry's lead vocal could be successfully scrubbed (well, almost) from his version of Califonia Dreamin' and replaced with the M's & P's, then I think it's quite possible that Jill's voice could have been scrubbed from the 2nd album. Just something to think about.
Rbcsoup wrote:I have not yet had the chance to listen to Chris' soundbytes. Thanks for posting them!
This is from my notes and those of Greg Russo. Also, at the end of the notes/commentary, I have included part of the group’s Sessionography from 1966 which should help with this mystery.
By the way, I was wrong about “Look Through My Window” as it was recorded in September 1966 after Michelle was back in the group. I appreciate your agreeing with me Chris, but maybe the fact that it sounds like Jill to us, makes Michelle's point that it's impossible to tell.
*Yeah, that's weird, it really sounds like Jill's voice on there...*
I also forgot that Henry Lewy, not Bones Howe, engineered the tracks with Michelle in August 1966.
This research is based on actual session sheets.
First and foremost: Michelle was fired on June 28, 1966 and reinstated on August 23, 1966. Once Jill joined the group, they went to London for a week. So her actual time with the group really was brief.
Dunhill released “I Saw Her Again” b/w “Even If I Could” in late June to hold things over.
The first studio session with Jill on board took place on July 5, at which the revised backing track of “No Salt On Her Tail” was recorded.
On July 8, John’s song “Gypsy” (which became “Dancing Bear”) was started.
On July 15, Jill replaced Michelle’s vocal on “Even If I Could.”
During the last week of July, “That Kind Of Girl,” “Did You Ever Want To Cry” and “Strange Young Girls” were committed to tape along with some orchestration on “Dancing Bear.”
John’s song “Did You Ever Want To Cry” was sung by Cass, but it would be shelved until the end of November for further work.
*I see no mention of re-recording the vocals on this... would that mean that Jill is on "Did You Ever Want to Cry"?*
The Mamas & The Papas recorded their vocals to “Strange Young Girls,” “No Salt On Her Tail” and “I Can’t Wait” in early August after the keyboard, bass and drum tracks were redone on the last two songs.
Re-recording was also done on “Trip, Stumble And Fall” during that session, although the vocals were not touched.
Once Michelle was back in the group, in three separate three-hour sessions, Michelle had to re-record as many of Jill Gibson’s parts as she could, and the first one was “Dancing In The Street.”
*Re-record "Dancing In the Street"? Jill never sang on it in the first place, did she?*
The studio musicians and John, Cass and Denny re-recorded whatever parts were necessary to make everything sound homogenous. Henry Lewy engineered these recordings.
When Greg and I worked on this we concluded that Michelle was not on a third of the final album. Even though she and John had written “Trip, Stumble And Fall,” Jill Gibson’s vocal was on the final track because time to complete the LP had run out. The other tracks that did not feature Michelle were “I Can’t Wait,” “Dancing Bear” and the LP version of “Even If I Could.”
*I'm confused about some of the session stuff listed below. The backing tracks and the vocals were recorded on "Words of Love" on the same day? Do you have all of the session sheets for this time? Guess it would be less confusing to see the actual sheets. Oh, and what ever happened to Greg Russo and his book he was working on? *
Trip, Stumble And Fall (04/25/66, 07/05/66 [with Jill Gibson], 08/02/66 [bass, drums and keyboards replaced])
Even If I Could (04/25/66, 07/15/66 [with Jill Gibson])
Dancing In The Street (04/25/66, 08/23/66)
Words Of Love (04/26/66, 11/09/66 [orchestration by Marty Paich])
I Saw Her Again (04/26/66, 04/27/66)
Once Was A Time I Thought (04/28/66)
Here In My Arms (04/28/66)
No Salt On Her Tail (04/28/66, 08/23/66 [new backing track], 08/24/66)
I Can’t Wait (07/06/66 [with Jill Gibson], 08/02/66 [bass, drums and keyboards replaced])
Dancing Bear (07/08/66 [with Jill Gibson], 07/27/66)
That Kind Of Girl (07/24/66 [with Jill Gibson], 08/23/66 [new backing track with Michelle’s vocal])
Did You Ever Want To Cry (07/24/66 [with Jill Gibson], 07/26/66 [new backing track], 11/29/66 [new backing track])
Strange Young Girls (07/31/66 [with Jill Gibson], 08/03/66 [new backing track], 08/23/66 [Michelle’s vocal])
My Heart Stood Still (08/23/66, 08/24/66)
Look Through My Window (09/24/66; 09/28/66 [orchestration by Marty Paich])
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